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Just the other day I was talking to a dealer that was looking for a new Internet Manager.  This is a small dealership that represents two up and coming franchises and sells about 100 units per month.  They have 2 Internet coordinators and are looking to add a manager.  The previous manager left to go work for a vendor for similar pay and less hours over a month ago.


Here is a dealership that has an internet department that is running with no process and no real idea of how to measure the results that come out of that room.  When discussing how much an Internet Manager should make the dealer says “Well, NADA says that an Internet Manager should make $60-65k per year”.  I looked at them and smiled because at that moment I understood exactly where their thoughts were.  I realized that either they are not properly educated on what to expect and measure or they just really do not care to value people in one of the most important positions in the dealership today. 


What was even more interesting was how they expect that internet manager to be a working manager and handle everything from answering leads to also handling marketing and managerial efforts.  By the way, this manager for $65,000 will also work a full manager schedule that includes 3 bell to bell days.  I explained my opinion like this, “For $65k, it is obvious why you have not had anyone talented come on board and have not replaced anyone in over as month”.  I added that “$65k will get you a rookie that needs heavy training and a high level person to run the department is a six figure executive.  You can have 29 cents per pound chicken wings and stay at a standstill or you can invest in a high quality piece of steak and really move the needle.”


We have all heard the saying, “The Internet Manager of Today is the General Sales Manager of Tomorrow”.  The reason why some industry experts say that is because it is true.  Once upon a time an Internet Manager was just a sales consultant that personally sold and delivered cars to internet leads without handling showroom floor traffic.  In some aspects the Internet Manager was a sales manager for a group of Internet Sales Consultants.  While, there are dealerships out there that may still operate that way in 2013 there needs to be recognition for a major shift in the industry for what is going on.


The reality is that sales consultants do not have the proper phone skills to handle internet sales opportunities properly.  The other reality is that sales consultants care about what is in front of them now and not what is coming in.  Some more realities, the internet has become a major part of how dealerships market their business.  Dealerships that have been trying to hide from the internet for so many years now have no choice but to at least dabble in it.  This is because some OEM companies are cracking down hard on the dealerships and relying on them to make the appropriate changes in order to stay compliant.


In most cases, a business development center is the way that Internet leads are being handled with professionally trained phone professionals who focus on making lots of phone calls each day to generate appointments for showroom traffic.  These departments are managed by high powered sales managers that have excellent call center management skills, phone skills, and preferably automotive sales and sales management skills.  It is in my opinion that the best BDC Manager knows how to work a car deal and is at the level of a strong desk manager.  Sadly, I have seen people with no care sales experience hold those positions and I still cannot understand why a dealer would settle for that.  But then again, how many vendor reps come in to dealerships to sell a product and tell the dealer how they should sell cars yet they have never been in the dealer’s shoes ones (Yes, it makes me sick and I take it personal).


The bottom line is that the Internet Manager of 2013 must be prepared to be at the level of a General Sales Manager.  Look at the responsibilities of a General Sales Manager.  They are in charge of managing a large team, advertising budgets (sometimes), and training, mentoring, coaching, closing deals, desking deals, managing the finance department, growing their own skills, and reporting to the dealer with full accountability.  Now, look at the Internet Manager.  Internet Managers need have skills that include mastering internet lead management process, managing the CRM/ILM, managing dealership websites, managing social media and reputation for the dealership, handle vendor relations, work with sales department to ensure sales are being properly made, and report to the dealer.  Do not get me wrong in some operations there is more than one person handling the duties and in some cases third party vendors are in place to eliminate some tasks.  However, these vendors still need to be managed by a competent manager.


In essence these are the same job descriptions as the General Sales Manager.  So why does a GSM does make $150,000 per year and an Internet Manager only makes $65,000 per year?  My friend who is a sales manager said to me the other day, “being an Internet Manager today is so much tougher than being a sales manager between all of the marketing, technology, and then managing people and dealing with politics because you are under appreciated”.  The bottom line is that the Internet Manager should have the respect of a General Sales Manager especially since there is a huge chance that they will one day take over that role.   For the dealers that are reading this, if you plan to be a successful dealership in 2013 and hire an Internet Manager make sure that you test their skill level, knowledge at the very least.  Also, be prepared to pay and treat them as a real executive as that is what they will be to you.

---About the author: Stan Sher is widely recognized automotive industry expert with regards to sales and marketing.  He is the President of Dealer eTraining

Learn more about his background here.

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Comment by Stan Sher on March 25, 2013 at 2:08am

Thanks Chris.

Comment by Chris Hill on March 13, 2013 at 10:59am

Great article. Thanks!

Comment by Stan Sher on December 19, 2012 at 9:29pm

Thanks.  I appreciate it.

Comment by Keith Shetterly on December 18, 2012 at 11:28am

Stan, my friend, awesome article.  100% on the money.  Literally and figuratively!  

Comment by Stan Sher on December 18, 2012 at 7:11am

Wow...I love the feedback.  Thanks everyone.

Comment by Tom Gorham on December 17, 2012 at 8:44pm

Mike, being able to sell management on what you are doing is not only the most challenging part of the job, but often holds one back from the track record you desire.  Great insight.  Thank you!

Comment by Mike Warwick on December 17, 2012 at 7:21am

I agree Tom, you definitely have to pay top dollar for someone who has those skills but it also raises another question.  Having the skills to do the job and getting management to buy in are often two different things.  This is why I always look at track record.  A track record not only tells me that you have the right skill set, it also tells me that you were able to sell management on what you are doing (often the most challenging part of the job).

Comment by Tom Gorham on December 15, 2012 at 5:08pm

Mike, you are absolutely right about experience and skills.  The BDC agents and the SMs and GSMs you're are talking about will be in a learn as you go position.  They cannot start out at the top pay scales before they show what they are capable of.

I can remember when there were very few experienced Internet Sales and Marketing Managers.  The position is fairly new.  But there has been a growing number of people in the industry who have the experience and skills you have mentioned.  I think Stan was pointing out that if you want those kind of skills and experience, you have to pay for it.

Comment by Mike Warwick on December 15, 2012 at 8:10am

Stan, this is a great post. In my opinion, the biggest factor in determining a pay plan is track record. What have you done in the past that warrants the jump to a six figure salary? If you can demonstrate that you have generated millions of dollars in income for a dealer over an extended period of time, you will be on more solid footing. I interview potential Internet Managers every week and the vast majority are successful BDC agents with no management training, very little experience with digital marketing and many have never sold cars on the floor so they have a hard time relating to SM's and GSM's.  Unfortunately, they are stuck in a bit of a no man's land between BDC agent and Internet Manager.  They don't have the specific training they need to be a manager and they have reached the point where they no longer want to be "just an agent."  I find that many dealer principles have an issue with paying SM or GSM money to someone who has never worked on the floor selling.  Old school thinking but it seems pervasive. 

I agree with you Stan on what an ISM "should be,"  I just don't find many that can do most of the things you mentioned. Most of the ISM candidates I interview have never sold cars on the floor or penciled deals. They've never had to manage a department budget, hired, fired or dealt with other HR issues. They started as agents and worked their way up to team leader and think they are ready to lead a department.  Occassionally, I'll get the SM or GSM who thinks their skills translate to the Internet Department and they are actually less qualified than some of the agents who apply! It's a tough challenge to convince a dealer that an ISM is worth six figures unless they come from a good sized dealer group and have a solid track record.

Comment by Jim Flint on December 12, 2012 at 10:55am

Stan, Great post!

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