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Comment by Tiny Malone on December 20, 2008 at 5:59pm
Oh I could write a book on this Video.

The Title? "PFFFffffft!"
Comment by David Ruggles on December 20, 2008 at 5:50pm
Buy American? Are you kidding? Do you mean a Chrysler built in Mexico or a GM car built in Canada? Or would it be better to buy a Toyota built in KY or CA? Which means more to American jobs? How much extra do I have to pay to "Buy American" when their resale value is so bad. A Toyota or Honda at sticker is a better buy than most cars built by the Big 3 just based on resale value.

Having said this, I still have supported and worked for the guaranteed loans, which I think is a better and more accurate term than "bailout". S. Detroit already received its "bailout" up front in tax credits and incentives from the states where they are located. But the Big 3 can't expect me to buy their vehicles when they undermine the value of their owner's vehicles with massive fleet sales, rebates, and other incentives brought on by overproduction. If they had spent the money they spent lobbying Congress about CAFE on R&D instead they could have improved their technology. They neglected the car business in favor of the truck business. They allowed the UAW to hold them hostage. Yet, they are not responsible for the lack of an energy policy in this country and for the shutdown of the credit industry. The government is to blame for that!
Comment by RAZ on November 19, 2008 at 6:43pm
The Big Three should all join together and each concentrate what each are good at..

Ford-Trucks
GM-Sport Cars
Dodge -Minivans


They make way too many models and options.Keep it simple like Honda.
Comment by Jennifer Schrader on November 18, 2008 at 9:38am
David - I fully agree with you for also being a resident of Northern Michigan, I can see the huge impact this can cause. Just insane! I am a true believer of buying American myself. I drive a Chevy and will always do so in the future.
Kim - Education is truely the answer to your post above. Why have OEM's purchase these leads and sell them back to their own dealer. It is rediculous. It is expensive and last time I looked wasn't it a 2% closing ratio on those 3rd party OEM leads & about on average $15 - $20 a Lead? OUCH!
Jim Bradford, the Owner of TK, taught us very well with educating the dealer on how to sell more online, educate on SEO, but to educate all with what is really going on, then having to spend tons on 3rd parties.
I can speak up on this as being a prior salesperson too at the dealership. During that time, many still do, we relied on the "Hope System" is what I recall from a different post. We all hope to get leads, sales etc etc. It just does not work that way anymore.
Finding providers out there to teach, educate and learn is hard to find for many out there want the sale and then run.
That is my $0.02
Comment by David Wassmann on November 16, 2008 at 9:20am
I live in Southeast Michigan, this is an economic disaster area; has been for 3 years with unemployment over 7% for several years and real estate declining for the past 3 years...I would like to see the domestic manufacturers get tax breaks and low interest loans...but only if management and the unions take aggressive cuts to be competitive with Toyota and Honda wages in Kentucky, Ohio, etc....take a look at what chief execs at Honda and Toyota make relative to the domestics; same goes for autoworkers. Too much cost built into a car by the UAW and very poor leadership by the big 3 to pay their leaders multiple millions while they lose billions. All of that makes it harder to make a profit and compete in a global auto market. I think a smaller, slimmer gm, ford and Chrysler can be successful...just as Honda and Toyota and Nissan were successful in the US as smaller companies, profitable companies.
Comment by Kim Clouse on November 16, 2008 at 7:51am
Here is another interesting FACT. Why do we see third party leads being purchased by the OEM's unfiltered, unscrubbed, in no way put through a checking process? Then the lead is sold to multiple dealers in the same market for 300% profit. The dealers, who are at the mercy of these (un-named here) OEM's. If they do not participate the do not get their local marketing money, their co-op is reduced, on and on. The dealers have no control of it but to spend extra money. (If they are lucky enough to find someone who can help them that has actually sold cars). The other thing is, why are the third party vendors participating in these practices? Now that we are all pulling together, it is time time take a look at who is really helping and bring them to the forefront. The others will be left behind. Education is the answer and learning never stops!!!!!
Comment by Ralph Paglia on November 15, 2008 at 9:37pm
There are a lot of facts out there that will make you pause and think... For example, in the state of Kentucky the largest employer is Toyota. In the state of Ohio, the largest employer is Honda... However, regardless of those facts, the bottom line is that in the current financial crisis we risk losing one or more of the largest single sources of above median wage jobs in the United States of America. None of the Asian transplants are at risk at this time, but yes, GM, Chrysler and Ford are. If more Americans start buying the products currently being produced by any one of the Detroit 3, not only with the Asian car companies still be around to kick butt in the marketplace in the future, but there will then still be enough of an American economy left to buy those Asian products! We are not just talking about domestic car companies in the current situation, we are looking at the potential collapse of the American economy to such a level that it will take generations, if ever, for it to recover. What we all need, is for the US government to shift focus from placing billions of dollars in the hands of bankers, HOPING that they will in turn create loans and stimulate spending, and instead focus on stimulating the greatest economic growth engine that has ever existed... American Consumerism. Making the sale tax on the purchase of all new cars once again deductible from federal income tax calculations is not only fair, and eliminates double taxation, it will help stimulate car buying across all brands. Providing a financial incentive to trade in old cars on new cars will reduce air pollutant production and stimulate jobs while also reducing our dependence on foreign oil supplies... Maybe I am delirious, but there seems to be so many ways that if our government is going to put is into bankruptcy with record deficit budgets, that at ;least would be more directly stimulating our economic recovery.
Comment by Jim Setele on November 15, 2008 at 7:48pm
Being held hostage by the outdated unions and workers whose wages and benefits amount to nearly $90.00 per hour versus foreign manufacturers at $46.00 per hour is ridiculous. I wish i could see that value in my own career. The only difference is that for 28 years I have earned every penny I have made the hard way.
In the 20's and 30's there was a proper place for a union. The fairness pendulum has clearly swung far past center and the corruption that the union concept was trying to placate has reared its ugly head in the form of forcing American companies to go offshore to compete.
It can be fixed.... it has to be. It has to start somewhere. We, as Americans can start by helping ourselves by doing our damnedest to be loyal to American products and services NOW. We can then maybe afford to demand that the American companies bring our offshored jobs back to the 50 states. If we simply wait to see what will happen... it will be too late.
Take action now. Our country depends on it!
Tick tock...tick tock...
Comment by Mike Warwick on November 15, 2008 at 4:59pm
It's very frustrating to watch the news and hear so called "experts" say, "The big three make terrible products, they deserve to go out of business. Japan simply makes better cars." It's time for these experts to wake up and start presenting the facts. It's not 1985 any more. I won't speak for GM and Chrysler because I've never sold their products but I sell and drive Fords and the quality is there. Producing vehicles like the Expedition isn't going to win us any eco-friends but last I checked, Toyota and Nissan still make the Sequoia and Armada. Most people have no idea how much of our economy is driven by the car business. Hopefully, they won't have to find out the hard way.
Comment by Mark Ziehr on November 15, 2008 at 3:49pm
selling on guilt?

There are manufacturer's like Honda and Toyota that have multiple factories in United States of America that are providing jobs while not giving into the unions that rape the manufacturer's for all they're worth. The workers are caught in the middle I agree and my heart goes out to them. The management of the Big Three all need to find a new line of work. Restructure and leave the union floundering in their misguided 1920 mentality of enslavement.

I want the Big Three to survive too. It is good for this country. But do it in a better way. Restructure, reduce the number of brands, focus on quality from within the factories - emphasize great technologies like ON STAR, natural gas vehicles, Hydrogen and hybrids. America needs the auto industry to be strong, but that will not happen if the 25Billion OR more goes to just bailing out the management and their poor choices to let the union dictate the direction of these great aging companies. Those days need to end, along with the resignation of Nancy Pelosi and Chris Reid.

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