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It's time to man-up, or woman-up, as the case may be.  State your simple support here, dealers and vendors, with one word:  Yes to TrueCar or No to TrueCar.  I'm tired of this whiney B.S. blamed on fairness--but maybe I'm wrong.  Maybe there is great support of this company?  Or maybe the message of the company is lousy?  Who knows.  YOU DO.  TrueCar, yes or no.  Can you say it in one word?

Me:  NO.  


HELL NO.

What say YOU?

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Comment by Peter Klein on December 14, 2011 at 10:26pm

At the end of November we were in the process of signing up with True Car.  As a result of everything we've learned over the last few weeks, our dealership has made the decision that we are not comfortable working with True Car.

Comment by David Ruggles on December 14, 2011 at 11:55am

Jim,

There is a lot that will be published on this in WARD's beginning today, including my "point by point."  Steve Finlay just got off the phone with Painter and will have a lot to add.  Did you see Finlay's piece on Painter from yesterday?

I also quoted you in a WARD's piece that is coming out today.  You commented on this being "dealer's armageddon." Dealers DO need to see it that way.  I hope the editors leave that line in my piece.

Comment by David Ruggles on December 14, 2011 at 11:49am

Hey, I gotta support your efforts as Dealer Defender.  Besides, you're right.

Comment by James A. Ziegler on December 14, 2011 at 10:57am

Ruggles, you are a master of retort....

Comment by David Ruggles on December 14, 2011 at 10:47am

Point by point response to Scott Painter's letter to the world.  Its kinda long and probably won't display in its entirety here so I have provided a link to it:

http://autosandeconomics.blogspot.com/2011/12/war-with-truecar.html

Comment by Keith Shetterly on December 13, 2011 at 7:16pm

Guess who's been looking at my LinkedIn profile the last few days and today?  Seems everybody BUT Scott Painter, whom I attempted to email via LinkedIn.  What, did they forget to call me, too?  :)  Guess I didn't make the cut.  Maybe it was that technology and data background, even if it's ten years old?  Anyway, here's the access by TrueCar:

Comment by Reyn Mansson on December 13, 2011 at 6:35am

No, TrueCar can't be good for dealers because it is weighted to provide the advantage to the buyer, not the seller yet it costs the seller. TrueCar's marketing disparages the dealers and they business practices. It magnifies the distrust that already is present in many auto transactions.

Comment by Scott Schultz on December 13, 2011 at 5:50am

TrueCar's Scott Painter is arrogantly telling us that our customers are paying too much for the vehicles we sell. He wants us to all provide personal data from our DMS which will provide our selling price-to be used against us, our customer's personal information-which can only be used against us, and to pay TrueCar a fee for supplying a lead that we use to give our product away. Forsaking the countless years and investments in our dealerships, our employees and communities. YES! Please, can I sign up now???

Comment by Jim Kristoff on December 13, 2011 at 3:55am


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Train kept a rollin....all night long.....

Comment by Stan Sher on December 12, 2011 at 10:55pm

Scott Painter had his people call me. Scott Painter wants to have a call with me. What do you all think? Should I do it?  You think he wants to offer me a job?  Perhaps fly me in to show me his operations to try to prove to me that he is legit?  Please let me know your thoughts and opinions.  If anything comes out of this to anyone is that even little ole me can get the personal attention of someone as huge as Scott Painter.  This comes to show you that if you use the internet the right way you can get attention from the way up.

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