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It's time to man-up, or woman-up, as the case may be.  State your simple support here, dealers and vendors, with one word:  Yes to TrueCar or No to TrueCar.  I'm tired of this whiney B.S. blamed on fairness--but maybe I'm wrong.  Maybe there is great support of this company?  Or maybe the message of the company is lousy?  Who knows.  YOU DO.  TrueCar, yes or no.  Can you say it in one word?

Me:  NO.  


What say YOU?

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Comment by James A. Ziegler on December 11, 2011 at 6:46am

I am in complete agreement with Mark Tewart on TrueCar TV ads. Of course we all have opinions, and mine is that I don't like this company, I don't like what they're doing, and I don't like Scott Painter. So, obviously everything I say is coming from that perspective. That is why, a couple of my friends and I actively encouraging a lot of government regulators, prosecutors, and other enforcement agencies, at state and national levels to take an in depth look at TrueCar and ZAG and what they're doing. I believe that they cannot stand a lot of scrutiny with consumer privacy issues but I am not as qualified as government officials and attorneys to make a definitive statement. That's why mine is just an opinion, their rulings will bear weight   of the ability to enforce and penalize. I feel that just the overwhelming dealer backlash should make potential investors run like hell. 

Comment by Mark Tewart on December 11, 2011 at 6:09am

No. Watch the ads. In my opinion, they are extremely deceptive. I think some AG's will begin to scrutinize their ads. If you are a dealer and a part of their program you are promoting deceptive ad practices. Not a lawyer and not a legal viewpoint, just my opinion.

Comment by Ralph Paglia on December 11, 2011 at 4:54am
Comment by Keith Shetterly on December 10, 2011 at 1:28pm

HAHAHA Jim.  And great stuff about working the deals . . . Thank you for that!

Okay, folks:  Alpha Dawg has come in da' house and barked a loud NO.  

Come on in and vote, MAN-UP or WOMAN-UP:  TRUECAR, YES OR NO?

Comment by James A. Ziegler on December 10, 2011 at 1:26pm

Just decided  NO

Comment by James A. Ziegler on December 10, 2011 at 1:25pm

One of the posts on these blogs about TrueCar/ZAG one guy was boasting he's making great money with his ZAG deals... "You just have to know how to do it."

That's the problem... We do know how to do it. AND we'd rather not have to make a profit that way.

ZAG and TrueCar who are making any money on these deals are having to resort to the worst tactics we've all tried to get away from.

That's what I am telling USAA about the way their customers are being treated because of the company referring them.

Comment by James A. Ziegler on December 10, 2011 at 1:21pm

Can I have a little time to think about it?

Comment by Ed Brooks on December 10, 2011 at 10:08am

This new-school, HUGE fan of transparency gives a resounding NO. There is transparency and then there is stupidity.

I like a Big Mac now and then. I don't ask McDonald's what their food cost is - I don't care. I pay my money and I get exactly what I expect. To me, that is a transparent transaction. For them to tell what a Big Mac costs to make would be stupid. And I don't expect it either.

I'm not against all third parties. Hell, I spent years working for one. There is a huge difference between a classified site showing asking prices and giving dealers an opportunity to differentiate their car and their dealership, and TrueCar.

Comment by Keith Shetterly on December 10, 2011 at 9:50am

Thanks Nancy!  Check out

I'll take that call.  :)


Comment by Nancy Simmons on December 10, 2011 at 9:49am

No problem Keith.. Some of us are working too hard to change that negative perception associated with car folks... As we can see...this process is just worsening the negative connotations towards dealers and TrueCar is not taking any accountability... Let me know what I can do to help!  Carbucks has been hosting some discussion as well... I owe you a phone call Keith!

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