e at the DD conference, we recommend you see your doctor or get tested by a hospital emergency room... Everyone, including Gil Chavez is feeling better already, so not too much to worry about, but our medical community needs to know and track if you have the Swine Flu, so don't hide it!…
ce 1987. Every convention panders--if we measure our professional selves by consumer-oriented advertising, we may as well forget it.
I'm 54. I watched shows like that, too.
I'm talking about change, my friend. The leap from what I said about treating symptoms to "censorship"... well, I'm still offended. That's a helluvanassumption right there.
I have said ENOUGH about supporting CarDoll's 1st Amendment Rights, several times. I SUPPORT IT 100%. To say the least, this fixation of yours is frustrating. You're my friend, so One More Time: SHE CAN DO WHAT SHE WANTS AND SAY WHAT SHE WANTS. So can Ted Ings.
SO CAN I. So can we. I believe we make room for the women professionals in this business by our own advancement past our belt buckle thinking. Symptom?
The symptom I'm treating is US. Our thinking. And, as always, it's the hardest because nobody WANTS to change. Not because it isn't right to do so.
And, that's my *&^&%$ own 1st Amendment OPINION.…
mpany that uses objectionable marketing and advertising practices. But, there is also the perspective that Manny expressed... If something works for some people and not others, then let the others stay away from it and let those that it works for take advantage of it. The real problem that i believe makes people object to CarDoll is not necessarily what CarDoll is doing to promote her business, it is the thought that it might work, that anyone in our industry might reward her for the approach she is using. If that is the case, then I stand behind what i said before... Attacking the symptom may feel like the right thing to do, but does not solve the root cause of the issue itself.…
fective in getting dealers and managers to engage with suppliers. I do not believe for a moment that if such activity used to promote supplier products stopped happening that it would reflect any change in our industry's culture or demeanor, the root cause is the simple reality that such promotional practices work! I also do not believe personally attacking the hired models, or attractive technical supplier employees will fix the root causes either... Again, the problem is not the methodology it is the effectiveness of the methodology that is a condemnation of our industry and a symptom of a problem that exists with or without the practices that so many people find offensive, but far too many others respond to.
I also submit for consideration that "The CarDoll" is not a problem for our industry if the techniques and methodology do not find a paying audience... If our industry has truly moved past the root causes of gender based bias, then "The CarDoll" will not sell any of her products and services and will disappear fairly quickly. Attacking the CarDoll is no different than attacking the "Booth Babes" you describe, and is a misplaced application of efforts and attention. …
ymptoms to reduce the risk.
Just because something "works" in advertising doesn't make it right. Women in this industry do suffer from the root cause, the 'cold', but they need help with the 'pneumonia'. Cardoll is just tossing a hot blanket on a fever.
I don't support personal attacks on social media, and I've called out even "the highest" in social media for doing just that. And so I don't support anything negative about CarDoll from that point of view.
I don't believe men and women are likely to change, and some women like to be appreciated for their looks and sexual appeal. As do some men. People talk about a "fine line", but often it is blurry. Sometimes hard to see when it is crossed, but it's easy to see when someone lands on a side of it.
Booth bait is long overdue for a reduction. It's over the line, which has moved even more in this century. CarDoll? Over the line, too, in my opinion. Which is just that. One man's opinion.
The lack of females posting on this blog COULD be due to lack of interest. Or it could be because they've heard all this before and are tired of it. Or they don't want to post so that they don't get further excluded from the Good Ol' Boy Network.
Thanks, my friend, for ADM where we can talk about such things.
automotive friends and neighbors when they spend a month preparing to defend themselves in the marketplace, and 4 hours in the winning dealership only to pay a "different" price for the same car than everyone else did in the same dealership that week? We are complicit in this, and all the "Kiill the Beast" rhetoric only addresses the symptom, not the disease. The model is changing with or without us. The cure may be changing the experience with a strong dose of transparency. Just one man's opinion.…
his lessons and proof on his theorical discourse, thus casting a very bright light into a now very dark corner.
Or perhaps they fear a bite from the rabid Alpha Dawg - afterall one of the symptoms of rabies after being bitten are Stress, Anxiety, and Tension. On second thought, I think Alpha Dawg may have already bit. Metaphorically and Theoretically speaking, of course.…
I merely said it is self-evident and not only in our industry.
When you start "treating the symptoms", I assume you mean censoring them. If not, please elaborate. We are absolutely not the last industry to blatantly support this kind of thing (and I don't think we do). Turn on the TV or cruise the Internet.
I don't know the answer to the broader question here about sexuality in advertising. But I believe it would be risky to bring it into a dealership. And I don't believe it only offends women. But this article was about the reaction of some people to Cardoll. If true, it was over the top.…
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